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Exploring Trauma-Informed Coaching with Kena Siu

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Exploring Trauma-Informed Coaching with Kena Siu

In this episode of Happiness Unscripted, Kristin DeSouza hosts Kena Siu, a self-love and empowerment guide behind Midlife Butterfly. Kena specializes in helping women navigate through life's challenging transitions such as divorce, loss, and soul awakening using trauma-informed coaching practices like shadow work, inner child work, and somatic awareness. The discussion dives into what these practices entail, how they help in healing and personal transformation, and the importance of understanding and processing emotions to avoid physical manifestations of unresolved feelings. Kena also shares her experience as a digital nomad and how it enriches her life. The episode ends with practical advice on how individuals can begin their journey toward self-acceptance and holistic self-care.

Timestamps

00:00 Welcome to Happiness Unscripted

00:49 Introducing Kena Siu: Self-Love and Empowerment Guide

01:43 Catching up: Recap of part 1 & Launching into Kena's Coaching

02:49 Understanding Trauma-Informed Coaching

03:39 Exploring Shadow Work, Inner Child Healing and Somatic Awareness

07:39 The Importance of Somatic Awareness

17:43 Digital Nomad Lifestyle and Its Benefits

20:37 Building Community and Retreats

21:44 Midlife Butterfly: Programs and Offerings

25:11 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

29:49 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

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Kristin - Host..:

Hello, welcome to Happiness Unscripted, where we are on a mission to embrace happiness. I'm your host, Kristin DeSouza If you're ready to explore the real unscripted journey to deeper happiness and joy in life, then so glad you found us through this podcast. I'm inviting you to join me as we look within ourselves to find a path towards a life we each passionately. Embrace and love with us. Hear real stories from people who've made meaningful changes in their lives to find greater fulfillment alongside wisdom from experts across a range of fields to help inspire and inform your journey. So let's get started. Today I'm thrilled to welcome back to my podcast Kena Siu, the self-love and empowerment guide behind Midlife Butterfly and host of the Midlife Butterfly Podcast. Kena Specializes in guiding women through life's most challenging transitions divorce, loss, reinvention, and soul awakening using trauma-informed coaching that combines meditation, inner child work, somatic awareness, and what she calls radical self-love. Her own journey through multiple countries, languages, marriages, and profound losses led her to create a movement for women who are ready to drop the people pleasing, heal old patterns, and build lives of freedom and authentic purpose. She describes herself as living in the sacred in between that transformative space where we're no longer who we once were, but not quite who we're becoming yet. Today we're continuing to explore what it means to embrace your inner midlife butterfly and create a life your truly joyful living. I'm so excited to spend this time together with Kenna Diving into your amazing story and literal transformative work you do with women in their midlife. Welcome. I'm so happy to have you back here today.

Kena Siu:

Oh, Kristin thank you so much for the invitation. I'm so glad to be here.

Kristin - Host..:

Okay, Happiness Unscripted team, we are going to jump back into our discussion with Kena today. If you missed the first conversation with her, you wanna go back and listen to that. There we learn about Kena's very interesting life through multiple different countries as well as major life events and how these helped inform her work today as a coach and host of Midlife Butterfly. Today we're going to focus on her coaching work through Midlife Butterfly. And we will start by learning about trauma-informed coaching, so let's get to it. You characterize your approach as emphasizing trauma informed coaching over performance based, and you talk about using tools like shadow work, inner child work, and somatic awareness. So I'm gonna guess that not everyone listening is gonna know exactly what those things are. And so I was wondering if you can share with us kind of what each of those tools are and then we can maybe talk a little bit more about them.

Kena Siu:

Yeah, of Um, well, the shadow work, as I mentioned before, is this part of us that we don't want to see because again, there's shame, there is guilt. It is our flaws. Uh, it's what society, um, religion, culture tells us to say, no, you need to hide. And then we don't want to look at those parts of us. So, the shadow work is really looking into those parts and trying to, figure out, okay, what, what is it in there, what's where these, what these parts came from to dig in a bit more. Uh, for example, like for me, uh. Sex was a taboo at home, we will never talk about sex. So for me, and then for me, pleasure, I always related only to sex and not the pleasure of having a good meal, for example.

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, okay.

Kena Siu:

how, digging a bit more about how we relate some words and those taboos and know, working on those things and saying, ah, okay, this first of all doesn't come from me. I would just, it was something that we never talk at home. So by

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

I just tend to ignore it and put

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

and not talk about it too. so yeah, it's looking at those parts and then them back to the table and say, yeah, know what, I, if I didn't look at you, it's be, I know you were trying to protect me and understanding what that protection was and welcoming and accept it.

Kristin - Host..:

Hmm.

Kena Siu:

And

Kristin - Host..:

like that there's nothing that has to remain in the shadow that you can kind of put everything out there and understand all, all parts of you are worthy of knowing, I guess is what I'm hearing you say.

Kena Siu:

Yes, definitely. Yeah. It's putting that light to that shadow.

Kristin - Host..:

Okay, lovely.

Kena Siu:

and like I said before, like if we don't accept our ourselves fully, cannot love ourselves truly. Yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

yes. Okay.

Kena Siu:

Yeah. So that's part of the shadow of the shadow work. The inner child then is more when digging in into the wounds that we got during childhood. Childhood, which usually between the age of, well, I guess, we'll maybe zero probably since we're in our mother's womb up to seven or eight years old. So

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

like, uh, like for me, for example, my main wound is rejection. Even

Kristin - Host..:

Mm.

Kena Siu:

developed a bit after, it was not during that

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

Uh, but is those, uh, or abandonment, uh, or unworthiness? So all those wounds that based on that is how we take decisions is how we act to life or react to life in, with our relationships, the way we behave. So, it's, I

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

there like the people pleaser that I think probably 99.9% of the people we were, people pleasers at one point

Kristin - Host..:

Yeah. Yeah.

Kena Siu:

we wanted to feel loved, accepted, uh, belonging

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

uh, you know, so it's about understanding those wounds, um, to start then peeling the label, the, the layers of that, uh,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

literal and understanding. Again, those behaviors and limiting beliefs and stuff to start like working on them and, and healing them.

Kristin - Host..:

I like the description of it being an onion with layers and you can peel the layers back to, to understand'em.

Kena Siu:

Yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

I like that.

Kena Siu:

Thanks. And then,

Kristin - Host..:

So then somatic awareness. What is that one?

Kena Siu:

well somatic is basically the connection, mind and body.

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

The thing is, we are taught to be the neck up most of the time, right? To be in our minds, well, oh yeah, we need to learn to control things, blah, blah, blah. Which it's bullshit because the only thing we can control is our mind, whatever else, and whoever else, we can't. We just can't, so it's bringing that connection, uh, because I do believe that in order to heal. We really have to experience our emotions, whatever it is. At one point, we can label them, sometimes we cannot, and it's okay as well but if there's pain, there's a reason for that pain. So what is it? Is, is it, is it sadness? Is it grief? Is it abandonment? Is it rejection? What is it that is that your body has to process? Because the thing is, most of the diseases are created by emotions stuck in our bodies. That's why emotion is energy in motion. that energy doesn't move, it gets stuck in the body. And that's how we have all these diseases around the world. They're we were not taught to process our emotions.

Kristin - Host..:

okay. So you're basically saying emotions that were kind of holding onto and maybe, uh, trying to push down and not allow ourselves to simply, um, have the time and space to, to feel them and acknowledge them. And then sounds like ultimately you'd be looking to try and release them then and say, okay, like I've, you know, you've, you've done what you were there to do for me and now I can let you go. Is that, do I understand that correctly?

Kena Siu:

Yeah, exactly. Like when I was talking about my client, she had a lot of anger and she had she was a kid, for a

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

that happened at her place. So imagine she accumulated that anger for decades.

Kristin - Host..:

Ah,

Kena Siu:

So we got to work a bit deep in there and, know, giving her ideas of what to do and and practices. So she was able to start. peeling that onion little by little, by removing that anger out of her and what was in there, because of course, again, that was affecting her relationships and mainly with her kids.

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, okay.

Kena Siu:

Yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

interesting. Okay.

Kena Siu:

it's, it's, besides the emotions is also the sensations of the body. Like, I don't know, like for you, I don't know how you, for example, me, when I'm very stressed, I can feel a heaviness here in my shoulders.

Kristin - Host..:

Yes, yes.

Kena Siu:

that's stress. So also like learning to read our bodies like to say, oh, there's pain in here. I don't know. Let's say my, there's pain in my knee. but I didn't bump or anything. Like what is it? And like, and then when you go explore a bit like what could be the pain in my knee? Like, oh, you need to surrender to something. Right? Or sometimes it's the neck. it's the neck is like, okay, you're not being flexible enough. So it's also in into what

Kristin - Host..:

oh,

Kena Siu:

the sensations of the body or the pain

Kristin - Host..:

okay.

Kena Siu:

in a bit more and understand what is the body telling us. Because the body is basically the subconscious mind,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay. Oh, interesting.

Kena Siu:

everything is, is, is in here. The body keeps the record. I probably, you already

Kristin - Host..:

Oh.

Kena Siu:

and that's very true.

Kristin - Host..:

Yes. Yes. Okay. Well that then that kind connects to what you're saying about, you started out saying, oh, we're taught to think just in our head, from our neck up sort of thing. But you're saying the somatic awareness is really coming to listen to all parts of your body and, um, be open to what it's sending signals out about that you need to, need to face or acknowledge process, whatever it may be. Okay?

Kena Siu:

exactly. Because we keep so many things in there. I, I'm currently doing a, a certification, uh, it's called Neuro Epigenetic Breath, so it's

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

a breath work, but it is

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

uh, pleasure, love, and consciousness. Uh,

Kristin - Host..:

Uh, okay.

Kena Siu:

I'm just in week five in there, but it's been so interesting because it's. Incredible how we build these armors like around our pelvic floor, around our,

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

our chest to protect our heart

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

around our mind, because we trying to control everything all the time,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

but we are not aware all those armors are in there,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay. Okay,

Kena Siu:

right? So, yeah. So

Kristin - Host..:

so then the breath work is about connecting and bringing awareness.

Kena Siu:

yes, bringing awareness,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

But are different kind of breath work, uh, practices according to different things. Uh, again, I'm still in the, in the learning process, but it has been just so, mind blowing of, of just, you know, one of the things that I, that I love about the coach, and she said it just like this, but, but she's from Mexico as well, and she says like. Relax the ass. Like literally. And, and you know what I mean? I never realized I was always tight in my butt

Kristin - Host..:

Oh

Kena Siu:

So I invite you and I invite the listeners just to put attention to that. Like

Kristin - Host..:

yeah.

Kena Siu:

just because we're trying to protect ourselves

Kristin - Host..:

Okay. Okay.

Kena Siu:

tight from our pelvic floor the time, so how are we gonna,

Kristin - Host..:

Computer going. Oh, I need to, I, I need to loosen up my butt.

Kena Siu:

Yeah. No, but even when we're standing,

Kristin - Host..:

Yeah.

Kena Siu:

when we're standing or when we are walking, we are tight

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

And, and also, you know, that's a pelvic floor. Then another one is like, when we have our shoulders forward is because we are protecting our heart. Yeah. We are protecting our heart,

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, interesting. Okay.

Kena Siu:

So it's, again, those, it's those little. that, you know, I'm still like learning and also like observing people. Like I was in a dance festival this weekend and at one point to shake her bodies and then I saw this lady shaking the shoulders pretty well, but she was not able to, to shake her hips. And I was like, I think she can work on that. You know? And, and I didn't use to be able to shake my my shoulders. Now I'm able to do it, all these little things that connect everything just so fascinating.

Kristin - Host..:

Back to where we started. You know, the tiny little things. Just do a little bit and a little bit and it's amazing what can come out of all the, the little things. So, as I was kind of looking at your shadow work and inner child work, I was thinking that seems like that could be intimidating for people who haven't experienced it before. And so, is there, anything in particular that you find either are misconceptions that people hold on to with that, those concepts or maybe things you've learned through your work with clients that, help them to, be more open to a new concept when,

Kena Siu:

I, when I am in a coaching program that I have in curriculum, uh, I usually do a list the first half an hour, either curriculum or, uh, and then the other half an hour about whatever they need. like assistance at that very moment. So then

Kristin - Host..:

Uh

Kena Siu:

then they can follow up after our session, you know, for during the next week that we're gonna see each

Kristin - Host..:

mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

based on how the conversation flows and what is it that they need at that moment. So with that

Kristin - Host..:

Oh,

Kena Siu:

I'm gonna come in with questions to Okay. To see, okay, is this part of you, seems like you are ignoring? Or is this, this is a program that you probably got when you were a child and you are repeating a pattern, you know? So it depends. It it depends how it flows again.

Kristin - Host..:

I feel as you're talking about that, it's making me think back to, um, when my kids were really little and you wouldn't say, okay, it's now time to, leave the park and we're, that we've been having this great time at, and instead, we're gonna go get in the car, but, you know, and they're not gonna wanna do that. Instead, it's like, okay, well, are we gonna skip to the car or are we going to, jump to the car? And I feel like that's, That's what makes me think of like, I'm going to get you to the end point that I can tell you need to be at because you're tired and it's time for your nap, or something like that. But I don't have to, uh, talk about it in such a way that you're, you're gonna shut down and be resistant. I hear you saying you're gonna find ways to simply, you know, guide your clients down this path. And probably after that you can say, oh, look, we did shadow work.

Kena Siu:

Yeah, that's the thing, because otherwise, as you said, we create resistance and we're like, okay, no, something's gonna happen. I don't know, don't want to go there. Yeah. But how are you gonna know, you know, if you have to be So it's just, again, just following the conversation and, and go to what they need at that moment.

Kristin - Host..:

Okay,

Kena Siu:

Mm-hmm.

Kristin - Host..:

lovely. I'm pivoting a little bit here, I had actually not heard the term digital nomad before, so I had to look up what Digital Nomad is. I'll let you share what that is and, I guess I'd be interested to know, what you found that brings to your life by living as a nomad of it.

Kena Siu:

Well, I, I started business administration in tourism. So since

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

I, I enjoy traveling. I, I really love it. Uh, and, uh, I work again as a registration manager for an association for seven years, and I, I now work as a freelance freelancer like that. So I still get to, at least, like with this association, I got to want travel all around the world except for Africa, for that one. I went

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

40th birthday, you

Kristin - Host..:

Oh,

Kena Siu:

but I was like, it was, it was great to be able to travel around just because of this work. then now since I have my coaching business and then, uh, I'm working as a freelancer, but then I have less. Uh, less contracts as, as before or less opportunity to travel. again, travel is something that really nourishes me. And Digital

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

basically working remotely while traveling. And since

Kristin - Host..:

Ah,

Kena Siu:

my coaching is online, and

Kristin - Host..:

mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

that I do as a, as a freelancer, uh, for events, uh, it's online as well. Only when I had to be on site for, for the meetings or conferences, that's why I travel. And, uh, so, so far I've just been going to Mexico, my home country. Uh, so I go to visit my family, friends, and even like this year, I, I went to Oaxaca for the first time. I, I spent my birthday by the beach. I rented a little cabin and I was like, this is my birthday present. You know,

Kristin - Host..:

lovely.

Kena Siu:

yeah. So it's fun. And then I get to meet the people from. Around the world as well and, you know

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

to know more about, well, in the case, my culture from Mexico and I, I'm a foodie too, so, you know, new foods and, and things like that. So yeah, it's, it's very rewarding and I don't want to spend winters anymore hitting Canada. So that's what I, I enjoyed that life. And then, being here during summer, autumn, and then leave for the winter is, and, and then

Kristin - Host..:

Yeah.

Kena Siu:

you know, the holidays with my family. Uh, so it's,

Kristin - Host..:

Nice.

Kena Siu:

it's great.

Kristin - Host..:

I can see how that would, can fill your cup in multiple ways. So that's excellent that you found a path that lets you, uh, you found ways to embrace that in different ways throughout life.

Kena Siu:

And what I aiming now. Yeah, what I aiming now is to, uh, create community in different places. So really like

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

oh, I'm gonna be in this area. Like, who's there, who would like to, you know, gather or probably create small retreats for locals or for whoever are there if they cannot travel around, uh, you know, things like that.'cause here in, in Montreal what I'm planning to do is like a, like a four day retreats for women who they have children or they have to work

Kristin - Host..:

mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

might not have many, much time or also to travel or, um, abroad it's more expensive, right? So, but it

Kristin - Host..:

Yep.

Kena Siu:

to create those spaces and circles for to be in community, to feel seen and heard and, uh, in sisterhood basically. So, yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, lovely. Well, I feel like that is a perfect segue. I always like to ask, for our guests who've been listening and are thinking, I want to engage with more of the Midlife Butterfly, please share with us the different things you offer.'cause obviously you have coaching services, you have your podcast, and now obviously you're also working towards building retreats. So tell us about all your things, please.

Kena Siu:

Well, uh, my website is midlife butterfly.ca as you know, Canada. yeah, you, you can, you can find me there. I do have a few online programs, like Become Your Best Friend I Created a long time ago. Uh, those are low cost, uh, investments. Uh, I also have a couple of mini coaching sessions, which is basically coaching on demand, so people can just purchase those, uh, directly. And then I have the one-on-one coaching. I have the, the Butterfly Path, which is basically a six week journey where we focus in whatever specific topic, you know, the person wants, probably working on the people pleaser or in their wordiness or. building clarity in life, whatever it is, it's for six, for six weeks. And then I have the Truth Seeker Program, and this one is a six month program, is the one who has a curriculum. So this one is really about going deep into who am I, and then into holistic self-care, which is basically body, mind, and soul. So going into these three elements that are part of our humanness and understanding them and see how, we can build better habits and self-care practices so we can improve our lives. And then also moving towards that to the dream life that you want to build. there's also this follow up to saying, okay, let's have a, a plan for the next, uh, 90 days. And then from there they can keep going and keep building more, you know, self-care practices. Because my idea is to help them move forward

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

At one point, let them fly. I don't want to work with the same clients all whole time. I want them to, to take responsibility for their lives and at the same time be independent, to be able to do the work. And then saying, you know, having a compass. And then from there just, uh, be able to fly wherever they want. Yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

Excellent. Excellent. I love how you have, all levels of entry and so if someone just wants to test it out a little bit, there's ways to do that, all the way to, uh, some really excellent support on a bigger or longer goal there, so that's wonderful.

Kena Siu:

And also my podcast, as you said, midlife butterfly. I, yeah, I launched, uh, today, well now it's, uh, episode 33. So yeah, I'm very, it's, it's. I don't know. I just enjoy it so much. It's such a blessing. Be able to interview people as we are here and how we get to

Kristin - Host..:

yes.

Kena Siu:

and have deep conversations and that are so nourishing and beautiful. And at the same time, you know, I create my own solo episodes talking about my experience and, yeah. It's so, so rewarding and, and satisfying.

Kristin - Host..:

Excellent. Excellent. Yes. I think, I think especially with, living a bit more of a, a distant life where, you know, people are connecting virtually more often, I love how podcasts like yours do really help people think about that connection of the mind and soul So That's great.

Kena Siu:

Yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

my, final question here is, for someone who's listening and is kind of recognizing themselves in what you're talking about, as, tired of abandoning oneself and ready for change, but they don't know where to start, what is your recommendation for a first step for reconnecting with their soul and moving forward to, embracing themselves or accepting themselves more? compassionately.

Kena Siu:

Yeah, the first step they can do, uh, well, it would be, it would be basically to'cause the,

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

just by asking this question, it means that they already have awareness. So

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

tapping into that awareness

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

by noticing what is the inner critic saying. So it's

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, okay.

Kena Siu:

becoming the best friend. That's, that's the first step to improve the relationship with yourself.

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

and I mean, that's the closest relationship we ever have. We are 24/7 with ourselves. So if, if we get to improve that relationship, your whole life is gonna change.

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, excellent. Oh, that just sounds so exciting. uplifting,

Kena Siu:

can start doing now.

Kristin - Host..:

yes. Yes,

Kena Siu:

You can start doing it right now, yeah.

Kristin - Host..:

exactly. Well, as you said early on, and just you, you can start by just asking yourself, how would you talk to your, how would you say something if it, you were talking to your best friend? So that's, I think that's such a, such a straightforward and clear, yet simple question to ask someone, would you, and you're saying, would you say it to your best friend that way? And if not, then I'm to, to change how you're talking about it,

Kena Siu:

Yeah, and, and just, you know, uh, take a lot of kindness and self-compassion because

Kristin - Host..:

right?

Kena Siu:

that awareness and start really noticing that voice that

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

even able to hear, but is there giving us hard time? Just remember to have self-compassion because sometimes it's gonna be hard and it's gonna be painful to listen to really noticing what that voice is saying. But then we can also realize that that voice, sometimes it doesn't even belong to us, is the voice of, I don't know, of the mom, the voice of the grandpa, the voice of the priest, the voice, you know, they don't even, um, again, many things, they don't even belong to us. So it's

Kristin - Host..:

Okay.

Kena Siu:

yeah, noticing those voices and having that awareness, because again, um, we are the observer, We, we believe many times that we are our mind,

Kristin - Host..:

Mm-hmm.

Kena Siu:

but we are not. If we are, if we just pause and then you see a, I like to use this metaphor like we are the sky and our thoughts are the, are the clouds.

Kristin - Host..:

Oh, okay.

Kena Siu:

just observe them. Oh, there's another do. Oh, that's another cloud. you are the sky, so you are the observer. You are the consciousness behind. So just let them pass. Choose another one that serves you better.

Kristin - Host..:

I love that. Here's another one that serves you better.

Kena Siu:

Yeah, yeah. You have a choice

Kristin - Host..:

Excellent.

Kena Siu:

Choose something that serves you always.

Kristin - Host..:

I think nothing better to, end on than that right there. Choose something that that's better. Always.

Kena Siu:

Yes,

Kristin - Host..:

I wanna thank you so much for coming on. This has I, uh, you know, when people listen and it's just the audio, but I have been grinning through this whole discussion and I just am feeling, uh, very uplifted So thank you so much for spending time with me and being willing to share with my audience.

Kena Siu:

Thank you Kristin for the invitation. It has been a pleasure. I mean, I also like have my smile here all the time. It is, it has been so nourishing, so beautiful. So much fun. uh, thank you for allowing me to speak my truth. I really appreciate it.

Kristin - Host..:

Wonderful.

Kena Siu:

Thank you.

Kristin, Host:

Well, that's a wrap on this episode of Happiness Unscripted. I'm so grateful you chose to spend this time with me today exploring what it means to build a life we truly love. Your journey matters. The path to happiness isn't always linear, but it's always worth walking. Remember, this path isn't about perfection; it's about progress, self-compassion, and the courage to keep walking towards your goals.

Kristin - Host..:

Your presence here truly means so much to me. If this conversation sparks something in you, let us know. Before we wrap up, take a moment and choose one small idea from today's conversation to put into practice this week. Share it in the comments, your insights could inspire someone else on their journey. Don't forget to follow us on Facebook and Instagram for behind the scenes updates. Tap follow so you can never miss an episode and share this show with someone who might need a dose of happiness today. Leave a quick review or comment. Your feedback shapes our story and helps others discover Happiness Unscripted. I am Kristin DeSouza. See you next time as we keep moving forward together towards Happiness Unscripted. Let's get happy.